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Pool filter sand

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I have been noticing in one of my tanks that has pool filter sand, the sand at the bottom of the tank it turning blackish gray. The tank does not smell and after I do a water siphon, the sand from the bottom comes up and I see the color change. After about 12 hours or so the black sand disappears. Any ideas?
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I had the same problem with my fine play sand. I figured it was harmful for the fish, so I would take it out. I barely have any left in that tank. I haven't had this problem with my other sand.

Glad you brought this up

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I decided to post a few pictures of what I am seeing...

This is the what comes up after do a gravel sweep.

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And here is a shot from the under side of the tank.

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I plan on scooping the black sand out. Can anybody tell me what this is and what caused it? Any good ideas for removing the sand with the fish and some water in the tank?
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I found this on Aquariumadvice.com...


Black spots in the sand are indicative of a hydrogen sulfide gas buildup that grows in anaerobic conditions. Stirring your sand periodically will keep that from happening, as well as making sure it's not packed down too tight. It's not usually dangerous to fish unless you have a LOT of it in your tank. Stir sand during water changes and you'll usually prevent it from building up.


I do have about a good inch or so of sand, Ill remove the blacken sand and i will not add anymore and see what happens.
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How thick/deep is the sand in your tank?
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Dan Woodland wrote:How thick/deep is the sand in your tank?

its about a good inch.
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Jshakour wrote:
Dan Woodland wrote:How thick/deep is the sand in your tank?

its about a good inch.
I experienced the same thing in the past. Since then I use a bit less sand, just below the tank frame, and for tanks that had/have that issue I usually vacuum the sand more regularly than normal. The bacteria/algae etc you see is not harmful to the fish just unsightly and I believe it comes from the sand being densely packed over time where things trapped below the surface rot.

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Jshakour wrote:Stirring your sand periodically will keep that from happening, as well as making sure it's not packed down too tight. It's not usually dangerous to fish unless you have a LOT of it in your tank. Stir sand during water changes and you'll usually prevent it from building up.
This is the best way to prevent this condition. I like a thick layer of silica sand in my tanks, especially for the Eartheaters like Geophagus and Satanoperca. During my weekly water changes, I take the grip end of a wooden spoon and carefully stir the whole substrate. Since I do this, I never had this problem again.
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Thanks for the info!
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Nice info always wondered about this
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Jshakour wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:41 pm I have been noticing in one of my tanks that has pool filter sand, the sand at the bottom of the tank it turning blackish gray. The tank does not smell and after I do a water siphon, the sand from the bottom comes up and I see the color change. After about 12 hours or so the black sand disappears. Any ideas?
Hello,

The same thing is happening to me. Is there something about to worry? How you resolved this? Is there need to change the sand? Please help me with this.

Thanks
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Depending on how long the tank has been set up, the black veins could be nitrifying bacteria setting up shop in less-dense pockets of your sand.
If it is anaerobic bacteria, just mix the sand layer lightly to evict them from their homes.
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Hello,

I'm also facing the same problem and googled lot of related things on internet and finally decided to clean up because i think it is not good for fish. As jambo said that i have also read most of the places. So tomorrow is the day i ll take it out all the sands.
Thanks jambo and Jshakour!
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The problem isn’t the sand the problem is you have too much Sand and is compacted and/or you are not stirring enough
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I am using this product with the 12" version of the Intex Krystal Clear pump that I also ordered from Amazon. I followed the instructions that came with the filter and haven't noticed any sand entering the kid's pop-up pool after a week. And the water is significantly clearer than it was with the pool's supplied pump that used disposable paper filters. I am very satisfied with this filter sand and I think you should try it.
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Dalton_07 wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 am I am using this product with the 12" version of the Intex Krystal Clear pump that I also ordered from Amazon. I followed the instructions that came with the filter and haven't noticed any sand entering the kid's pop-up pool after a week. And the water is significantly clearer than it was with the pool's supplied pump that used disposable paper filters. I am very satisfied with this filter sand and I think you should try it.
Pool filter sand has many different applications, especially if you use it on aquariums. You can use the sand as a filter media for a fluidized bed filter, or if you are setting up a new tank, you can use this product as a substrate to line the bottom.
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